Ema Fireside Chat
October 14, 2026
53 Sec
Featured Speaker
Swati TrehanCOO, Ema
Sven KöhlerData Domain Manager Finance, Siemens Energy
Neil Ward-DuttonResearch VP, AI and Automation, IDC
Volker SchrankFounder, EX LabsSummary
Most organizations now have AI agents in production. Far fewer can prove the business value those agents deliver. Neil Ward-Dutton calls that gap the value chasm, and closing it takes more than better technology: it takes rethinking how work, roles and structure fit around AI. Watch Neil Ward-Dutton (Research VP, IDC), Swati Trehan (COO, Ema), Sven Köhler (Data Domain Manager Finance, Siemens Energy) and Volker Schrank (Founder, EX Labs) in a fireside chat on what it takes to move from running AI agents to measurable business impact, and why HR needs to lead that shift.
Ema Fireside Chat
Here's what to expect in the podcast:
- Why most organizations running AI agents still can’t measure the value they get
- How to start with the business problem, not the technology
- The difference between automation and transformation, and where humans fit when agents orchestrate the work
- Why reshaping structure, capabilities and culture around AI is HR’s work


